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Post by Ika on Aug 31, 2017 0:38:50 GMT
 Hey guys, congrats to the both of you.
I have some questions which you already knew.
It shouldn't take long,
but I could be wrong,
Just do the best you can do.
For the Baseball lover, Go Cubbies!! 
Answer this please:(Corey)Give an example of something you did better in the game than Porsche. Give an example of something Porsche did better than you. 
For this RnF AS season's last previous winner,
spill it all for this fine reader:
(Porsche)In a game filled with liars, I'd like to know who you think the biggest liar actually was. And what was the biggest lie you told? (For you both) while the gameplay was good I value entertainment you guys and in this jury phase, Erika was the only one that brought that imo. so right now I want you two to trash each other HARD. rip the other person's game out and tell me why they DON'T deserve to win. get everything off your chest. the more nasty the better  you are free to defend yourself from the other person's attacks too. there will be no judging in this thread if you choose to make a rebuttal 
That's it from me, all I need to know
Thanks in advance,
Glad we had the chance
to play this game together.
I'll try to be kind
as I make up my mind
on which of you played this game better.  |
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Post by corey on Aug 31, 2017 3:05:05 GMT
This may lose my vote before I even start answering the question but... {Spoiler}  I think I was more protected in the game. As I mentioned in Zach's question I think after Zach everyone would have taken Porsche out over me with the exception of Kelsey. While I will admit part of it was because I was not viewed as a threat in the finals I did make bonds with people like Howie and Natalie and Cody and did my best to present information to them so that they viewed me as an ally and someone that would have their back. Case and point with Howard telling me about him lying to Kelsey and me not saying anything which only strengthened my bond with him as well as with Natalie. Porsche won challenges when it counted most. While I do think my wins all came at crucial times: The early veto to make sure Kelsey stayed safe, the MVP win to keep it out of the hands of someone who could do some damage, I would have liked to win some of the challenges near the end. She was able to win a challenge in each of the final three rounds which is really impressive and something I was hoping to do. So I think I am going to disappoint you. I am don't like ripping people! I feel like Porsche doesn't deserve to win because her game on a very straight and narrow path. Maybe some people will award her for getting to the end of that path, but I had multiple paths to get to the end and I just took one. She also was a bigger threat than I think her gameplay warranted. She was probably viewed as the second biggest threat behind Kelsey. Kelsey had all her hands in all the cookie jars and was doing a good job, whereas I don't think Porsche was that as connected but still carried that same target. I know sometimes she mentioned not talking to people like Erika much. Even though it wasn't always about game I always tried to keep an open line of communication with everyone in the game. She also blew me off when she came to Oklahoma! Which is really the biggest reason she shouldn't win! I offered to drive an hour and a half and she shut me down. I know thats probably disappointing but I am not really in the business of tearing people down. Thanks Ika, your smile of the day jokes always cracked me up. |
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Post by porsche on Aug 31, 2017 6:05:58 GMT
This might lose me your jury vote, but I have to say that the biggest liar is actually you, diva. You said you were my friend and wanted to work with me the round you left, while you were the MVP who nominated me. You said that you barely spoke to Erika during her HOH but from what I heard, you were the main reason I was put on the block. You even lied about small things like your relationship with Howard.
That's not to say I blame you though. It's a game. You were targeting me, Corey and Kelsey and since we ended up being 3 of the final 4, you were right to do so.
I told a lot of lies throughout this game but nothing really stands out as being a "huge" lie. If I had to pick, I would say it was when I told Kelsey that I would vote Cody out over Howard, when I wanted Howard out.
I'm going to start this off by saying that I genuinely like Corey and I think he played a good game...a good second place game, that is.
Throughout this FTC, Corey's been talking about how people wanted to take him far and how he was safer than me. For the most part, that's true. But WHY was Corey so safe? A lot of people wanted to take him to the end because they thought it was their best chance of winning. If people want to take you to the end because they think you're a goat, that's not you playing a great game, that's you being a goat.
If you value entertainment, that's another reason to pick me. In my opinion, Corey was one of the more forgettable personalities in the cast. One of his three biggest moves happened in round 4! We may not have been on the same side, but I hope someone like you can appreciate the fact that I played a much more active game. I backstabbed, sniffed out bullshit and talked myself into safety.
I disagree with Corey saying I wasn't connected. My social game was one of the best qualities that I had. I worked really hard to talk with everyone and I felt like I had some kind of a relationship with everyone. Besides my main alliances with Kelsey, Corey and Cody, Zach has already said that he had a better relationship with me than Corey. I was allied with Natalie and felt pretty close to her. Corey said I didn't talk much to Erika and for a couple rounds, that was true. But after the events of the fast forward, I reached out, made much more of an effort to talk with her, and we started to get our relationship back to where it was in the beginning of the game. With people like you, Jackie and Howard, even though we weren't allied, I tried my best to reach out, maintain a relationship and talk to all of you, whether it was about the game or just about life.
A connection I had that Corey didn't even realize, however, was with Arlie. He and I were starting to talk much more, and he offered me an alliance. If he had stayed in the game, I really do believe that he would have been an ally for me. I wouldn't have been his #1, but he definitely would have chosen me over Corey.
From my point of view, it was Corey who had the most difficulty branching out. When he had a F2 with Cody, Cody told me about it. When he asked Arlie for an alliance, Arlie told me about it.
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Post by Ika on Sept 1, 2017 0:50:17 GMT
 Porsche, "Yes". Most of the time, “Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool my best friend? You’re dead meat.” You was after Jun MVP was after you... as for Howard everyone already knew but I would never confirm how close we was did not want him touched Jackie was already after him.. well I thought we was , one talk with Kelsey he dropped me anyway Cmon Corey, we need something here. Porsche just tore into you so it's time to give it back. Fight for this. kisses  |
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Post by corey on Sept 1, 2017 2:35:26 GMT
Ika, you are doing your best Joe Anglim impression and lighting a fire in my spirit.
First off every good public speaker starts off with a joke. So just because Porsche's answers are a lot bigger, does not mean her answers are any better. Its not about the size of the font, it is how you use it.
- First playing a good game for second place is not playing a good game. You can't fake a compliment into an insult just because we are friends. I will admit I did make some moves early on in the jury that may have hurt the list of people that I would be going into the finals as the favorite, I was confident in my ability to show why my game is better.
- Second you got to the end using one if not your only path to the end that didn't end up with you getting beat by Kelsey. I got to the end using one of the many paths that I had set up through my relationships and plans with Natalie, Howard and Cody. Yes, I may have been the underdog in some of those but I would have made the same arguments that I had many different avenues to go to get to the end.
- The difference between me and goat is a goat has one shepherd. That shepherd leads them to the end where they get slaughtered and made into goat nuggets. I had multiple people thinking that they were my shepherd. Multiple people thought I was the one who wanted to go to the end with them and was willing to put my tail between my legs and go with them. So if there are multiple shepherds who think they own the same "Goat", who really is the Goat? To clarify my bad ass analogy is that I was not loyal to one person. I made multiple people think that I really wanted to go to the end with them and that is what sets my game apart.
- While I may not be the comedy slugger that I was in my last season. I had a few one liners and am definitely a 4/5 on the funny scale and while I am not as entertaining as the great Diva, I definitely have my moments.
- To counteract her defense. While I am glad she was friends with Jackie and Howard, I am pretty confident both had a better game relationship with me than Porsche and would have targeted before me. Natalie and I were also a lot closer than I think most people including Porsche were aware of. While Cody did have the PCK alliance (seriously that is a terrible alliance name and kind of kills her entertainment argument), near the end of the game it made a lot more sense for him to side with me and I think he would have. The only two people that I agree that would have worked with her over me were Zach and Arlie. Zach was the person I took out when I won HoH, and Arlie I was the swing vote the following round in a group that included Porsche. So based on what she was saying that hurt her game.
Thanks Ika!
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Post by Ika on Sept 1, 2017 20:40:11 GMT
Thanks so much Corey just so were clear you said " Porsche you're full of shit you acted like everyone's BFF you were so far up Kelsey's ass to see straight , What the fuck did you do my fellow Jury member was confused she did not understand the font was to small, Ericka you got that, were good ....
AND NOW I'LL DO WHAT'S BEST FOR MEMy all time favorite song of Brittney Spears. Is Sometimes. I fell it is her legacy song.  |
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Post by corey on Sept 1, 2017 22:06:55 GMT
My favorite Britney Spear's song is a Taylor Swift song.
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Post by porsche on Sept 1, 2017 23:33:30 GMT
My favorite Brittany Spears song is Lucky. I really like listening to it, and it brings back memories since it was also the song that was posted in my DR after I found the hidden POV in season 13.
Ika, do I get a rebuttal or did I already use it?
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Post by corey on Sept 2, 2017 0:03:34 GMT
No more rebuttals from you P! I don't think this board can support any more massive text paragraphs. You
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