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Post by jackie on Sept 1, 2017 4:08:00 GMT
Hi, remember me? The person who p much did whatever the hell they wanted? 
Congratulations Corey and Porsche, you guys did what the rest of us couldn't and as I would kill for a seat in the f2, you guys got me. Good game you two. From my perspective, I saw both of you as UTR who hid behind Kelsey's shadows. You guys are lucky shits that Kelsey didn't win that f4 veto. lol
Originally, I was just going to post some statements but I had last minute thought of some questions for both of you:
1. List all of your alliances and deals that you had throughout the game and if you had names and graphics, post them! And tell me how much you were committed to said alliance/deal
2. What did you think was your turning point of the game and why?
bonus question: finish this sentence: Kat is a flop because...
Good luck guys! It's been a pleasure playing with you!   Jackie out for the final time. |
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Post by porsche on Sept 1, 2017 7:39:33 GMT
Hey Jackie! Thank you for the congratulations.
It was definitely my strategy to let Kelsey be a bigger target than me, but I don't know if I would agree that I hid in her shadows. There were several rounds where I went against her wishes. I also disagree with you saying I got lucky that Kelsey didn't win the final 4 veto. Competitions are a very important part of the game, and I crushed the final 4 veto. It was my win that let Kelsey finally get taken out.
Me/Kelsey/Cody: The name of our trio was PCK. Corey's given me a hard time about this name, but it's not my fault! That's just how Discord names the server. I was very committed to this alliance. It fell apart at the final 8 but I still worked with Kelsey and Cody individually. We also had this cute graphic, courtesy of Cody
{Spoiler} 
Me/Kelsey/Corey: Jun called the three of us The Dark Side, so we made that our name. I was committed to this alliance too, though for most of the game, I felt slightly more loyal to PCK.
Me/Kelsey/Zach/Natalie: This wasn't really an official alliance as much as an implied group, at least from my perspective. I was working with them for a couple rounds, but it was clear to me that it wasn't going to last the whole game and eventually Zach and Natalie would need to be split up.
Me/Kelsey/Shelli/Jen: Shelli named us the Frisky Four. This was my main alliance in the prejury stage of the game. I really loved all of these girls, and I was really sad when Jen and Shelli left.
Me/Shelli/Michael: Michael was the one who set this alliance up. I drafted Shelli and Michael for my clique because I wasn't sure about them, but they ended up becoming really close allies and I was really sad when we got split up. I think I would have chosen the Frisky Four over them if I had to choose but sadly I never did.
Me/David/Jun: David was the one who started this alliance. He had good intentions but he was pretty much the only one who was actually loyal to it. I didn't trust Jun and Jun had a million other deals.
Me/Kelsey: The name of our duo was Kelche, and I had a final 2 with her. I didn't want to go that far with her, but I was committed to our alliance, and she was my #1 for almost all of the game.
Me/Corey: I also had a final 2 with Corey. I was loyal to it, though that was mostly because I felt a final 2 with Corey was my best chance to win.
Me/Cody: We didn't have a final 2, but we had a very strong alliance, and I was committed to him for most of the game and I probably felt the closest to him after Kelsey.
Me/Shelli: I had a final 2 with Shelli and I really loved her. I wasn't sure if I would have taken her to the end, or if I would have chosen Kelsey over her, but it was like the final 16 when she offered me a final 2 and I figured that if I was in a position where I could take Shelli to the end, things had gone really well. Sadly, I was right and Shelli left shortly afterwards.
Me/Arlie: Arlie had offered me an alliance at the final 9 and I accepted. I had wanted to branch out and I felt like Arlie would be somebody people didn't expect me to be working with. However, I wasn't as committed to Arlie as I was to someone like Kelsey or Cody.
Me/Ika: Ika had offered me an alliance and was talking about how the girls needed to stick together, but she hadn't told me about her role in getting Erika to nominate me and later, she nominated me when she was the MVP. I didn't feel like Ika's alliance offer was sincere, so I didn't take it.
Me/David: Me and David were very close allies in season 13 and were allied in this season too. I liked him and wanted to work with him but he wasn't quite on the same tier as some of my other allies. And when he ignored Shelli on her way out, I lost a lot of trust in him.
Me/Jen: I was close with Jen once again. Of the people in the Frisky Four, I felt more connected with Kelsey and Shelli, but I really valued Jen as an ally. She made a good shield and most importantly, she was loyal.
Me/Steve: Me and Steve made an agreement to work together when we were HOH. I was open to it but I didn't feel committed to him.
The turning point of my game was during the fast forward, where I figured out that Howard was lying to me and then helped flip the votes to keep Cody. Around that time, I was feeling a little down about my game. I was playing well but I felt like I hadn't done all that much. The moment when I figured out what was happening was great and it helped light a fire under me.
Ever since that moment, I made a move in every round. In the final 7, I believe I helped convince Natalie not to target me, even after my game had been exposed. In the final 6, Kelsey wanted Cody out and I pushed for Howard to go instead. In the final 5, Corey (as well as everyone else) wanted Kelsey out but I knew it wasn't the right time, and I got Cody out instead, setting myself up for a final 4 that benefited me a lot more. And at the final 4, I cut Kelsey, giving myself a great shot to win the game.
Kat is a flop because she shared a screenshot with a player and altered the course of the game. |
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Post by corey on Sept 1, 2017 22:54:02 GMT
I really only had one group alliance that had a chat and all that shebang. After BB 15 when I made multiple group alliances and they didn't work out very well and the early exposure of anything Jun was associated with I definitely avoided any official chats or anything. Instead I focused on maintaining one on one game relationships and I think that really complemented my strategy. If I was caught being in a bunch of chats that could really hurt my game. However jumping back on subject
Corey/Kelsey/Porsche - The Dark Side. Even though this is hardly a star for my game, but I was the one who suggested making a chat. Which always helps with plotting and what not. I was very loyal to the Dark Side up until when I won the MVP. I decided to not tell them in order to feel out my options. I ended up putting Kelsey up to save her and build trust as well as see if anyone would bite and reveal their hand. Afterwards I still worked closely with them but was definitely weighing my options. I knew Kelsey was someone I wanted to avoid in the finals, so it kind of turned into a side alliance with Porsche.
Corey/Shelli/Jen/Kelsey - This was an early alliance that lasted a few rounds. It was a major reason why I was in a prime position to use the veto in week 4. The alliance kind of got awkward when I choose to veto Kelsey instead of Jen. I did try to save Jen that round, but afterwards it kind of fell apart. I was still close to both girls afterwards and it kind of led into the Dark Side.
Corey/Howard/Natalie - Never an official chat but something that I talked to both persons. We were the only two people who knew that Howard was lying to Kelsey about Cody selling her out and the reason was I had been plotting with them (mostly Howard) about getting Kelsey out for a couple rounds now. I definitely considered being loyal to this group but when Cody and Howard were on the block I really looked towards both the next round and the end game and decided that I had to break it off.
Corey/Erika/Natalie - The alliance that never was but would have definitely been interesting. Erika proposed it the round Natalie won HoH. However both Natalie and I were skeptical. I thought it might have been fun but when Natalie suggested putting up Erika instead of me as a pawn I jumped on that pretty quick.
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Corey/Porsche - I will start with the cute final two. Porsche was actually the first person I talked to in the game. We had a great talk and I found out she was dating someone in the same state that I live in so there was an instant connection. We had a working relationship until the backwards round which is when the Dark Side was formed and we worked a lot closer. Near the end of the game I started throwing Kelsey under the bus to here which I think strengthen our final two bond. While I would have cut her if a really good opportunity presented it, she would have been the hardest person for me to evict.
Corey/Natalie - Natalie and I were also really close. It all started after she nominated me and we realized that we had recently played a game together. Ya its kind of a cheap reason, but its an all star what can you do. Once she realized I was someone she was head over heals for we worked a lot closer in the game. We had a final two and I think she did want to go to the end with me. We definitely had our ups and downs and I went against her a lot of rooms and tried my best to real her back in. Having to break either her or Porsche's heart had I won final three would have honestly left me with a very heavy heart.
Corey/Kelsey - Kelsey was the first person I made a final two. I am sorry to say this Kelsey because even though I think you're awesome I confessed right after that there was no chance that I would ever honor it because I was playing too win. We worked very closely for a while throughout the game but around the time you left was when I started distancing myself from him in terms of talking to Howie and Cody about when she had to go. I think I did a good job saving face with her even though I am sure she knew that I wasn't going all the way to the end with her.
Corey/Cody - Cody and I had an interesting story. He actually did me a real solid early in the game. We had a goofy alliance chat with our clique. And even though I don't consider it an alliance, the bond we made in the chat helped me stay off the block when he won HoH the following round with the cliques. From then we kind of drifted apart, as he did not save me when I was on the block and evicted me but we regrouped around the start of jury. We realized that we were eachothers best option in the game to win and even though he told Porsche about it, I think he was honest to our final two. While I was on the fence both times I was the swing vote to save him (Arlie and Howie), after we solidified the final two at final 6, he was my ideal final two partner.
Corey/Howie - I hardly talked to Howie at all in the early stages of the game. I go to bed pretty early considering my early work schedule and he was up late because he worked late and is on the west coast so that made things difficult. Thankfully through our mutual connection of Kelsey we made agreements to keep eachother save. He saved me when I was up and kept me save when he was HoH. I think my relationship with Howie is one of my biggest accomplishments because when he won HoH, Kelsey kept telling me to talk to Howie to make sure I was safe, but she wasn't aware I was safe because me and him were talking about when was a good time to take her out. As I've mentioned he told me about the lie before hand and that really solidified that he trusted me. However after that it also made him a huge jury threat which is why I opted to evict him over Cody the following round.
Corey/Jackie - I would like to think that we worked together Jackie. I felt really bad after I evicted you early on but we made up and made a deal to work together. The round that really bothered me was when Shelli left and that kind of ended the trust I had in you.
Corey/Jun - I really wanted to work with Jun and trust Jun. I tried to be as honest as possible with Jun but she rarely gave me anything back and was the center of all these controversies. I viewed Jun as someone that I could work with for a little bit but it never worked out.
Corey/Shelli - Shelli was going to be my original #1 to the end. I knew with my schedule early on I was going to be in trouble and knew she was likely to be a power player. So I asked for safety and she really helped along with Kelsey with helping keep me safe when I was off in Canada. Unfortunately she didn't last much longer after that so I could not repay the favor.
Corey/Tiff - My real final two. My true love. Tiff is my girl! Unfortunately like BB15 she didn't get off to a good start and with the activity level this season she wasn't able to keep skating bye. Everyone lucked out because we would have killed it!
The turning point of the game was when I evicted Zach. It allowed me to improve my relationship with just about everyone int he game (sans probably Arlie) by making them feel like they were apart of the plan. It also allowed me to take out the one person in the game I felt would put me up if he won HoH. This move was a big reason why I was able to continue to avoid being on the block all the way until the Final 4.
Hope this answers your question Jackie! Good luck with your decision!
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Post by corey on Sept 2, 2017 0:08:24 GMT
I forgot to answer the most important question.
Kat is a flop because she is friends with Colb. Double burn.
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Post by jackie on Sept 2, 2017 1:03:15 GMT
Thank you guys! Good luck  |
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